A former member of the Army’s secretive Delta Force – which pulled Saddam Hussein out of his underground hideout in 2003 – has finally provided a firsthand account of the dictator’s capture.
Appearing on a podcast last month, Army Master Sergeant Kevin Holland spoke about Hussein’s December 13, 2003 arrest – the first time an American has done so in nearly 20 years.
The only known soldier to serve in both the Navy’s elite SEAL Team 6 and the 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta, Holland then offered never-before heard details to former Navy SEAL Jack Carr on his program Danger Close.
Speaking surprisingly candidly to his fellow serviceman when questioned about the high profile incident, Holland revealed how he and his brothers-in-arms came to find the eight-foot-deep hole, and how they found a haggard Hussein armed with a gun inside.
The accounts comes nearly two decades after the most recent official statement on the dictator’s capture, before his eventual execution by hanging in 2006.
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SEAL 6 vet Kevin Holland appeared alongside fellow north Carolina Daniel Winkler – a knifemaker Holland is collaborating with on a new tactical blade – the soldier broke his silence
Holland, seen on the far left in the December 2003 photo, revealed how he and his brother’s and arms came to find the eight-foot-deep hole, and how they found a haggard Hussein armed with a gun inside
Appearing alongside fellow North Carolina Daniel Winkler – a knifemaker Holland is collaborating with on a new tactical blade – the storied soldier broke his silence on the arrest, which came into question last year when an Iraqi interpreter who worked with the US military refuted claims that Hussein was hiding at the time of his arrest.
The trio began their discussion by speaking about Holland and Winkler’s origins and how they came to know each other – before turning to Holland’s 20-year military career.
Holland described how he came to join the SEALS out of high school when he saw a Parade magazine that showed the special operations force on a supposed mission ‘all covered in mud.’
‘I always grew up on John Wayne, and watching Green Berets, and all that, and wanted to be a Green Beret, and read First Blood, of course,’ Holland said, noting that main character Rambo carried ‘a 30/30 [Winchester Rifle],’ the gun he used to hunt game as a teen in the foothills of North Carolina.
‘That’s what I grew up with and so his background was a green beret, and that’s what I wanted to be.’
Eventually, after seeing how limited the requirements were for joining other services such as the Army, Holland said he decided to join the SEALS, and eventually joined the hallowed 6 Team. Before the War in Iraq broke out in 2003, he transferred to the Army’s equivalent, the Delta Force.
The only known soldier to serve in both the Navy’s elite SEAL Team 6 and the Army equivalent Delta Force, Holland – seen at left – described how soldiers posed for pictures with the deposed dictator, who said exuded an ‘evil presence’
Soon, the conversation turned to Hussein, with Carr approaching the subject somewhat carefully, seemingly anticipating that Holland would – and likely could – not elaborate.
‘I don’t know if we can talk about it or not – we’ll edit it out,’ Carr said, before asking the serviceman about the 2003 mission in the small agricultural town of Ad-Dawr, where Hussein was holed up.
Holland responded by describing in painstaking detail how they received ‘human intel’ regarding the then deposed dictator’s location, and eventually found a haggard Hussein in a small hideout near a farm.
The farm was set in a deserted expanse lined with only one road, Holland said, where Iraqis loyal to Hussein would station themselves to notify them of any approaching forces.
After being well received, Carr started the sensitive exchange by asking how Holland and his team came to spot the small hole, which was masked with brush and dirt and a large layer of Styrofoam underneath.
Holland described in painstaking detail how they received ‘human intel’ regarding the then deposed dictator’s location, and found a haggard Hussein in a small hideout near a farm
‘Mhm. Oh yeah,’ Holland said, as if remembering an old, familiar memory.
‘Yeah, well, we had some human intel that showed us exactly where it was at,’ Holland said.
When his team found the obscured spot mentioned by the informant, ‘we just brushed it away,’ said Holland.
‘They had a big Styrofoam plug, you know, that they would put in there and then cover it with leaves and dirt, sand, and it had a pipe for air – we had noticed it when we cleared it. Just dug it away, pulled it up, and sand fell in.
‘And in goes a banger,’ the soldier then laughed, revealing how soldiers first cleared the hole with a well-placed grenade.
Holland then revealed that once the dust cleared, his team came face to face with a pit encased in brick, too dark to see inside with the naked eye – and eventually Hussein.
Holland, pictured in 2003 with fellow Delta Force members in Iraq, revealed that Hussein was armed, and that the gun, a Glock-15, is now in the possession of ex-President George W. Bush
‘We had lights on our guns, when you looked in it, you could tell – you could see bricks, you know, where they bricked it up,’ Holland recalled.
‘We know it’s something. And the guys says he’s in there.’
Soldiers then attempted to flush out the subterranean lair with a dog, but, according to Holland, the animal was too scared to enter.
‘So, finally, once he pulls the dogs back, we start hearing somebody talk in Arabic, and the interpreter starts talking back,’ Holland continues.
‘And it’s like, someone’s coming – the voice is getting closer, you can tell. The sound, it’s getting closer.’
He then detailed how, suddenly, ‘hands come out of the hole, and then a big bushy head of hair.’
Holland said the despot’s gun is now in the possession of former US President George W. Bush
‘We grab him and jerk him out, and it’s like, ‘that’s him,’ Holland told both Carr and Winkler, who appeared in awe of the soldier’s impromptu story.
Holland added how one of the larger soldiers helped him pull Hussein out of the eight-foot-deep hole.
The serviceman described the awe he felt when his fellow soldier helped him hoist Hussein out, remarking, ‘it was ‘like, “Holy cow, it’s him.”‘
Holland went on to shed further light on arrest, describing how Hussein, then 66, had been armed with a handgun – causing one of his fellow soldiers, whom he referred to only as ‘a Big Texan,’ to hit the Iraqi despot in the mouth.
‘Then, a big Texan nails him in the mouth, knocks him down – cause he’s got a gun, he’s armed. So we had to make sure that he couldn’t get to that gun.’
Holland then remarked how the gun was a ‘fully automatic Glock- 15 – and how it is now in the possession of former US President George W. Bush.
‘Bush has that now,’ Holland said, before providing more detail on how Hussein acted during his capture.
‘He was pretty beatdown,’ he recalled. ‘He just said he was the president of Iraq and that he’s ready to negotiate, and he said that in English. And we’re like, “That time’s passed brother.”‘
Holland added that at that point, after restraining the bloodied prisoner, they tauntingly told him ‘President Bush sends his regards.’