Thomas Jacob Sanford’s chilling confession a week before Michigan Mormon church shooting

The Michigan shooter who killed four churchgoers reportedly called Mormons ‘the anti-Christ’ just days before carrying out the attack.

Thomas Jacob Sanford, 40, of Burton, rammed his pickup truck into the Grand Blanc Township church on Sunday morning before opening fire and setting it ablaze.

The former Marine was shot dead by police in the church’s parking lot after killing four and injuring eight. 

Nearly a week before the horrific tragedy, Kris Johns, a resident running for city council, said he had a conversation with Sanford that quickly took a dark turn.

The city council candidate, who was canvasing the neighborhood at the time, said the topic change to religion made him want to end the conversation. 

‘He was extremely nice at first. He even talked about his child who had a serious medical concern,’ Johns told journalist Dave Bondy. 

‘But when the conversation turned to religion, I just wanted to get off the door and away from him,’ he added. 

At the time, Sanford lived in Utah – a state with close ties to Mormonism – and was in a relationship with a woman who was involved in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Johns claimed. 

Thomas Jacob Sanford, the man who opened fire at a Mormon church in Michigan, has a chilling conversation with a local about a week before the attack 

Kris Johns, a resident running for city council, said he spoke to Sanford while canvasing the neighborhood. During their conversation, he said the Marine veteran said he believed ‘Mormons are the anti-Christ’ 

Johns, 44, also spoke to Detroit Free Press about the conversation with Sanford, who shared his struggles with drug addiction after his time in the service. 

Johns said ‘it was one thing after another,’ as Stanford went on to ask him if he believed in God. 

Johns, a Christian who is a member of the Solid Rock Community Church in Burton, replied ‘yes’ to Sandford, adding: ‘From there, the conversation takes a very sharp turn.’ 

He was then asked by Sanford about the Mormon bible, the role Jesus plays in the religion, the history of the LSD church, and more, Johns said. 

‘I just didn’t know what the next question was going to be,’ he added. 

‘There’s certain things you don’t forget. This is not a forgettable guy.

‘It was very much standard anti-LDS talking points that you would find on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook,’ Johns said of Burton.

As he went on to speak of the religion, Sanford told Johns that he had his tattoos removed so he could take part in church ceremonies. 

Several tattoos were seen on his arm in Facebook photos of Sanford, including barbed wire imagery and what appears to be a dreamcatcher. 

Sanford told Johns that he had his tattoos removed so he could take part in church ceremonies. Several tattoos were seen on his arm in Facebook photos

Despite the intense conversation, Johns said he didn’t feel unsafe. 

‘It wasn’t anything I thought I needed to call police about. You hear all kinds of views these days. Nothing about it suggested he was going to hurt anyone.’ 

It wasn’t until news broke of the mass shooting and fire that Johns realized the same man he spoke to was responsible for the carnage. 

At least four people were killed and eight were left wounded on Sunday. Authorities said they would be searching the building ruins for more victims.

The attack occurred about 10.25am while hundreds of people were in the building in Grand Blanc Township, outside Flint.

The man got out of the pick-up with two American flags raised in the truck bed and started shooting, Police Chief William Renye told reporters.

The attacker apparently used gas to start the fire and also had explosive devices but it wasn’t clear if he used them, said James Dier, of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. 

One family friend told journalist Ty Steele that Sanford had been battling PTSD.

At least four people were killed and eight were left wounded on Sunday. Authorities said they would be searching the building ruins for more victims. (Pictured: The charred church on Monday) 

The shooter’s mother Brenda Walters-Sanford shared the above message two days before the massacre in Michigan

‘It’s hard to feel sad for someone who did something so terrible, and I still feel sad. I had heard through family events that he had had PTSD,’ she said.

‘He would make comments occasionally and it was something that was kind of talked about. It wasn’t talked about in depth… so I don’t know the depth of his issues.’

Sanford’s loved ones, including his wife and both of his parents, also frequently shared pro-Trump messaging on their social media pages

His mother, Brenda Walters-Sanford, posted a chilling message on her Facebook just two days before the incident about people who lack accountability. 

‘Talking to someone who constantly avoids accountability is not a real conversation – it’s a battle. It’s a cycle of deflection, projection, twisting, and playing the victim..,’ the post read. 

‘When I try to express how your actions have hurt me, you don’t listen with the intention of understanding; you listen with the intention of defending yourself. That’s not communication – that’s self-preservation of your ego.’ 

The text appears to have been shared by several Facebook users, suggesting it’s a viral chain. It is unclear if Walters-Sanford was directing it at her son or someone else she knew.

It continued: ‘I don’t owe my peace to someone who only wants to win an argument, not to understand my heart. My energy is not a prize for someone committed to misunderstanding me. At some point, you have to value yourself enough to stop begging someone to hear you.’ 

His mother’s Facebook post might have been a ‘trigger’ for Sanford, who suffered from PTSD, Carole Liberman, a forensic psychologist, told the Daily Mail. (Pictured: An undated image of Stanford in active duty)

The lengthy post by his mother might have been a ‘trigger’ for Sanford, Carole Lieberman, a forensic psychiatrist with over 20 years studying criminals, told the Daily Mail. 

‘If in reference to her son. Really mean. Very hurtful kinds of posts. That could’ve been a trigger,’ Liberman said. 

‘Very personal. Very intimate. Saying how much he hurt her. Basically I hate my son. Dysfunctional childhood. Sometimes it’s more from the mother [than] from the father.

‘Put together it’s a dysfunctional childhood. [He] Had PTSD from the military, so we know he was particularly vulnerable.’ 

Sanford served in the Marines from June 2004 through June 2008, working as an automotive mechanic and vehicle recovery operator, according to military records obtained by The Detroit News. 

He was deployed to Iraq from August 2007 through March 2008 and had the rank of sergeant. 

Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Detroit FBI field office Reuben Coleman said during a press conference Monday afternoon that they are ‘continuing to work to determine a motive.’ 

They are currently calling the investigation and ‘act of violence,’ he said. 

Authorities are looking into the improvised explosive devices that were uncovered at the scene, ATF Special Agent in Charge James Deir said.